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Post by Joe on May 21, 2009 23:39:21 GMT -5
Tonight, there was a(nother?) discussion about how much violence and sex is too much? I'm probably too liberal for my own good, but isn't it self-defeating to have an open character setting while at the same time trying to, essentially, censor what gets posted in #forest? It's a bad idea. I, for one, am not going to edit what my characters do because of some inane idea that we need to be a little more family-friendly or whatever you want to call it.
Please... discuss.
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Jim
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Post by Jim on May 21, 2009 23:43:15 GMT -5
Right. Stupid politics explanation time GO.
Basically, if we have an 'anything goes' rating system, it counts as an 18+ only channel due to possibilities. We then have to enforce this rating system because apparently Darkmyst gives a sh*t about this tomfoolery. In short, if we have 18+ content, we're not supposed to have users under 18 join the channel (Re : Most of them). Hence why we try and keep the content lowered to a 13+ or 16+ rating.
Personally, I think it's retarded that those people running Darkmyst actually give a sh*t on what goes down in a chat room, but I'd rather not see #forest get closed.
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Alriik
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Post by Alriik on May 21, 2009 23:55:56 GMT -5
Okay. Okay. Okayokayokay. I know, this is mostly if not completely my fault. Let me explain my motives... So I don't end up on either side of the war.
And this doesn't apply to any of my characters that aren't Alriik, The Horseman, or Rage. Or Bryan. The rest of 'em are kid friendly.
Alriik just curses a bit when he's angry or scared. I don't beleive that curse words have any true meaning, so I use them. It doesn't mean as much if Al said 'Fark, we're dead.'
Horseman- Gets beat up and turns sadistic some times. Usually violently.
Rage- .... Aaah.... My favorite. This one needs a ban on all human society. Rage rapes, kills, and slaughters. But this isn't on violence. He's been violent as all hell, and never has anyone said a word about it. This is about Rage's sexual nature. When Tinasi showed alot of skin, Rage acted appropriately, toying with her, while standing infront of Alriik. And it wasn't explicit. It was *Double-Grope-Lick.* I didn't go into detail, I just said about 7 words in total that imply sexual nature. Well... not imply, but you catch my drift. I honestly don't think that's exactly too explicit. But then again, I'm twisted enough to play Rage everyday and enjoy it whole heartedly, so maybe I'm just protecting my fuzzy little inner sadist.
Bryan- Has never done anything too horrible.... In the chat. >_>; Offscreen... He's truly a monster. >_>;;;;
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Post by Joe on May 21, 2009 23:57:45 GMT -5
As an aside, I'm not trying to raise a rukus (clearly not enough SteamPoweredHitler for me to do that), I'm just curious.
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Post by CuteCat on May 22, 2009 3:59:07 GMT -5
I'll add my thoughts on the matter.
Originally, the only reason we had any limits at all, I think was because I didn't want to be attacked by those who just wanted to cyber. Apparently, I was paranoid about it at that time, possibly due to this one guy going "I wanna do you by an open window and have you scream really loud" at me soon after I begun using IRC.
With time, somehow people started to refer to that rule as PG-13, I don't fully know why. While violence and general sexy-stuff is okay, to me? Cybering isn't. It's the detail that causes problems, not the actions themselves!
If someone kills a woman by stuffing her arms down her throat, it's actually necessary to write that out, so people don't get confused and try CPR or something on her. However, describing how FAR they're stuffed or the results of her gag reflex or any other of those small, loving details is what pushes it too far. "Blood and guts everywhere" says just as much as "half-eaten hearts, brains smeared about the ground, blood spread around in a haphazardly pattern, lining the bloodied chunks of what was once, at some point, alive."
Sex-stuff is the same way, basically - Kissing? Okay. No detailed stuff, basically saying "aaand then they make out in a bush. Scene change!"? That's fine. I think we've had people walk around naked before. But talking about how you jizz on stuff or graphically describing what you do in that bush or just plain cybering in the middle of the chat? I don't think ANYONE wants that. This is the reason for the rating, and what I believe is the true meaning of it.
TLDR; Sex and violence are actually fine, just don't describe it all in lovingly crafted detail. Keep it simple and not much more than what's actually needed, we don't want to squick anyone.
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